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And why I'm bothering, I'm not sure. Nevertheless, one more time, repeat after me:
Characters in original works are not and can not be considered
Anyone who says otherwise has no fucking idea what they're talking about and therefore are disqualified from participating in any further conversation.
Furthermore, Wesley Crusher is not a valid example of a "Mary Sue" in an original work: Star Trek: The Next Generation is itself a derivative work (which means that WC may be, in fact, a "Mary Sue". This point, however, is not germane at the moment).
To anyone who argues that Starbuck or Elizabeth Swann or whoever is a "Mary Sue" because the character is, in your opinion, flawless, always right, always wins, *cough*a female hero or POV character*cough* - not, of course, that misogyny has anything to do with this discussion (Although note we're discussing "Mary Sues") - I have a single question: Is Superman a "Mary Sue"? Is Batman? What about Luke Skywalker? Aragorn?
And if Starbuck is a "Mary Sue", what the fuck does that make Captain Kirk?
Assholes.
Characters in original works are not and can not be considered
"Mary Sues".
Anyone who says otherwise has no fucking idea what they're talking about and therefore are disqualified from participating in any further conversation.
Furthermore, Wesley Crusher is not a valid example of a "Mary Sue" in an original work: Star Trek: The Next Generation is itself a derivative work (which means that WC may be, in fact, a "Mary Sue". This point, however, is not germane at the moment).
To anyone who argues that Starbuck or Elizabeth Swann or whoever is a "Mary Sue" because the character is, in your opinion, flawless, always right, always wins, *cough*a female hero or POV character*cough* - not, of course, that misogyny has anything to do with this discussion (Although note we're discussing "Mary Sues") - I have a single question: Is Superman a "Mary Sue"? Is Batman? What about Luke Skywalker? Aragorn?
And if Starbuck is a "Mary Sue", what the fuck does that make Captain Kirk?
Assholes.
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